Curse

Zexion · Apr 27, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

I have noticed that some titles, which should, in my opinion, be account based, is character based. One that truly shocked me was the Wisdom Title Track, the one for identifying unidentified items. I see no reason for making this character based, as you can just, if you care so much for it, transfer all golds to one char to ID them there.
This is completely stupid, as it is not a non-transferable thing. Things like exploration makes sense, as you can obviously not transfer the part of the world a character have explored to another character. Golds, however, are easily transferable, and thus, the title for this should be account, not characterbased!
Anyone hear me?

_Zexion

imortal · Apr 27, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

/ signed.

R. Mindwalker · Apr 27, 2006, 07:03 PM // 19:03

/unsigned.
You forgot the one for being drunk for x amount of minutes ingame

Lasher Dragon · Apr 27, 2006, 07:05 PM // 19:05

I agree too, but I think this belongs in Sardelac.

:moving:

Zexion · Apr 27, 2006, 07:45 PM // 19:45

Well, since factions is not out yet, I figured it would be smart to post it in the faction specific forum, but oh well:/

But other titles they might wanna consider making account based is (perhaps) elite skill caps, DEFINATELY chest opened, and perhaps minutes drunk.

_Zexion

Lasher Dragon · Apr 27, 2006, 07:52 PM // 19:52

Personally, I think the drunkard one should stay character-specific. Some of my toons are raging alcoholics, while others are teetotalers.

LotharOvsothian · Apr 27, 2006, 08:06 PM // 20:06

/signed. sounds like a pretty good idea to me

-LO-

Evilsod · Apr 27, 2006, 08:16 PM // 20:16

/signed

opening 100 chests on every single char is just ridiculous, thats about 60k minumum per character for christ sake!

DakAtak · Apr 27, 2006, 08:56 PM // 20:56

/not signed

I understand your concern but it's not supposed to be easy. They have to keep us hooked. If it was account based, I am sure it would be equally as difficult to attain (ie. levels would be 4-6 times what they are now). Good luck!

Zexion · Apr 27, 2006, 09:41 PM // 21:41

I would rather have it account based, and divided into 4 levels, one level per 100 identifications. Anyone agree on that?

_Zexion

Rayne Nightfyre · Apr 27, 2006, 09:53 PM // 21:53

/signed.
I agree, it's completely redundant to go explore Tyria with my Mesmer, Elementalist Monk, Ranger and Necromancer after getting 90%+ with my Warrior. The PvP titles are account-based, somehow the exploration titles should also be account based.

It would be difficult, since uncovering the blurry parts of the map is done for each character, but the bottom line is that it's redundant. I'm not going to waste time running around with my other five characters (besides my Warrior) just to fill a progress bar up. Somehow it needs to be changed.

SchwarzKnight · Apr 27, 2006, 10:06 PM // 22:06

/not signed

Isn't it more logical to have the PvP stuff be account-based, while the PvE stuff is character-based? PvP must be account-based, due to the nature of being able to re-roll pvp characters at-will. With how frequently I, a casual PvPer myself, re-roll for different situations, I know that, if the titles weren't account-based, they would be nearly unobtainable. Whereas PvP characters are very fluid and dynamic to fit the situation, PvE characters have that little RP aspect to them. You know, role-playing? The character-based nature of the PvE titles fits right into that mold. I mean, it would be kinda odd to have a newly-created Canthan somehow be this accomplished Tyrian explorer, or have the credit of opening some hundreds of chests, while still being this lev 1 weakling mucking around the monastery area, wouldn't it? If you really want to show off your exploration title, the character's bound to have a bunch of other titles to show off as well, so just bring him out and show him off. Not that hard. A lot of these titles might as well be straw hats and overalls, at least in the early-going, as they'll separate the more hardcore farmers from the rest pretty quickly. Anyway, I think they did this title thing just fine. I guess it just comes down to priorities - do you value getting a better title on all of your characters more, or do you value playing your favorite character more frequently? No wrong answer, just a choice to make.

Zexion · Apr 27, 2006, 10:19 PM // 22:19

I did not say EXPLORATION titles should be account based. Nor "protector of tyria/cantha" (all missions+boni completed).
I said things like RARES IDENTIFIED should be account based. Please read the whole post before you post.
And does it matter more to others what you have done as a person, or what one of your 5 PvE characters has done?

_Zexion

SchwarzKnight · Apr 27, 2006, 10:24 PM // 22:24

Does that change my point?

The sentence " I mean, it would be kinda odd to have a newly-created Canthan somehow be this accomplished Tyrian explorer, or have the credit of opening some hundreds of chests, while still being this lev 1 weakling mucking around the monastery area, wouldn't it?" can be modified to include any title prerequisite you like. Seriously, a level 5 rit shouldn't get credit for identifying some hundred items. I mean, c'mon, the character's been in existence for all of a couple hours, or even a couple days, if you want to scale to something like "game time." Isn't it a bit illogical? The guy's still a greenhorn/newbie/rookie, not some great "identifier of items" or "opener of chests" or "drinker of booze" yet. (Well, maybe the last one

) He's just some random schmuck still making a name for himself. PvE titles are just that because they fit the role-playing aspect of the characters you're using.

duverga · Apr 27, 2006, 11:25 PM // 23:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SchwarzKnight

The sentence " I mean, it would be kinda odd to have a newly-created Canthan somehow be this accomplished Tyrian explorer, or have the credit of opening some hundreds of chests, while still being this lev 1 weakling mucking around the monastery area, wouldn't it?" can be modified to include any title prerequisite you like.

It may seem odd, but there are a lot of low-level Assassins running around with titles indicating great fame (Blahblah Hero) so apparently Anet doesn't have a problem with the concept in general.

zerowingcats · Apr 27, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

/notsigned

Quote:

Isn't it more logical to have the PvP stuff be account-based, while the PvE stuff is character-based?

Chaco Nautzi · Apr 28, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

/signed

Quote:

Originally Posted by duverga

It may seem odd, but there are a lot of low-level Assassins running around with titles indicating great fame (Blahblah Hero) so apparently Anet doesn't have a problem with the concept in general.

I agree completely

Tarun · Apr 28, 2006, 12:20 AM // 00:20

/signed

Half of the titles don't show up either, such as for missions, etc.

SchwarzKnight · Apr 28, 2006, 02:46 AM // 02:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by duverga

It may seem odd, but there are a lot of low-level Assassins running around with titles indicating great fame (Blahblah Hero) so apparently Anet doesn't have a problem with the concept in general.

What are PvP titles worth on a PvE character, anyway? It's been a pet peeve of mine where people will advertise their rank as a means to get into a group at somewhere like THK, and I think this can be ignored just as easily. I'd say it's a lesser wrong to allow those titles on undeserving PvE characters than to force people to keep a PvP character around an unwieldy length of time to so much as accumulate the first level. Also, due to the nature of fame thus far, it would be rather troublesome to try and isolate that on a character basis. Can you imagine the uproar if they switched fame to a character basis, then some r6+ guys delete their PvP character for whatever reason, and that was where their fame was tied? Not pretty. It would probably be better for PvP titles to be tied only to PvP-only characters, but there are many who play their PvE characters in PvP, and that would a very raw deal on their part. So, I think they took the path that would anger the fewest people the least.

TheLordOfBlah · Apr 28, 2006, 07:58 AM // 07:58

I think the missions one SHOULD be across all characers. Theres no point in everyone knowing that you have done all missions AFTER you've done em all. thats not going to help with anything.